Think of something you tried to persuade a parent, teacher, or friend to do or believe. It might have been to buy or pay for something, to change a due date or a grade, to change a rule or decision, to go somewhere, or some other issue. Explain the situation.
-What kinds of arguments did you use? -Did you use logic? -Did you use evidence to support your request? -Did you try to present your own character in a way that would make your case more believable? -Did you try to engage the emotions of your audience? Write a short description of your efforts to persuade your audience in this case. Please make sure your response is 10-15 sentences.
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Jacob Pollock
2/8/2016 12:53:26 pm
Logos, or logic, is generally the most powerful of the three methods of persuasion. It's nearly impossible to deny facts, so your argument becomes much stronger. That's generally the way I start and end my arguments. Ethos isn't usually effective against a parent or teacher because they have authority over you, not the other way around, so I don't use it intentionally. Pathos is effective, but it also limits who the argument can apply to. Emotional responses are triggered by the different exigences, or backgrounds, people have had. Exigences vary between people because no two will have the same exact experiences. Evidence is a good way to prove your point in an argument. However, it can still be refuted or dismissed, or even used for a rebuttal. So it's important to use evidence that can't be manipulated easily. This usually results with me convincing my targeted audience of my point. Logic and evidence of that fact are the best way to win an argument.
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Eliana Alberto
2/14/2016 06:20:27 pm
Usually my arguments always start off with logos because its most effective. It's hard to deny the facts so it works in almost every situation. Very often I've had to convince a teacher or parent of their unfairness in a situation. Since a teacher and parent has higher authority over a student I've had to have proof and facts.
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Rafael Torres
2/6/2017 02:53:47 pm
The best way to win a argument is to attack the audience's emotions. Humans are emotionally invested creatures. Our whole life is based on the emotions that control us. Logic can be useful, but facts and common sense can bore the audience. A good mixture of pathos and logos are needed. The ethos approach will never work because you might not have authority over them. They actually have the authority over you instead, so ethos is a bad play. Pathos and a hint of logos is the only useful way to win against a higher authority.
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Josue Rebollar
2/7/2017 12:52:49 pm
I usually use logos to persuade. If i want to go somewhere i just say im bored and i would rather go out and do something. Then i would present them with two choices. One is would they rather me do nothing at home. Two is to go out and do new things. This should work becuase why wouldn't they want someone to do something then nothing. I dont really use emotion to persuade anyone. I also use logic to make up missing work from school. Since its cant really get the work from home if I'm sick. This usually works because they would rather give me a chance to make it up and help myself then to not.
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Gabriela Espinoza
2/8/2017 03:45:01 pm
Having grown up with strict parents, my skills to persuade them to allow me to have some freedom have developed significantly over time. If I ever wanted to go out, a parent always had to follow. However, as I grew older, I started wanting more of my own privacy and freedom to go out on my own. I would attempt to convince them by begging and swearing that I would behave, but that never worked. So it was time for a change. Eventually, I learned to argue using logic and emotion. By respecting the rules and their decisions, I earned their trust and began to be able to do things on my own more often. Now, I am allowed to go many places on my own. I keep this privilege by continuing to follow the rules and never giving them any reason to doubt me or have them take away wha I have worked for. Arguing using those two techniques usually allow me to win the argument and have it work to my convenience. Because humans are emotional beings and look for evidence in a claim, behaving correctly has allowed me to get the results that I wanted. Using the correct language and tone in an argument is essential to capturing the credibility and attention of an audience, and give the results you want.
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Jackie
2/28/2017 12:54:19 pm
When im trying to go out i always yours logic because i tell my parents that if i stay in the house i just going to make a mess and that im not productive if i stay.
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Alfredo Medina
4/27/2017 02:20:06 pm
As the year starts to come to an end, we begin to feel more excited and surprised at what is to come. Some of us are already 18 and feel the responsiblities of an adult. Our responsibility is to learn and graduate. At the end, many of us are failing or aren't doing anything. Me, I need to catch up on ERWC. Right now, I'm failing badly. That class is a graduation requirement. I don't know what will happen if I fail, but it may happen. You try so hard to pass but in the end, you fall and don't succeed.
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Ismael Mendias
3/19/2018 02:08:25 pm
My personal preference in order to persuade an individual is to appeal to their rational interest and their emotional appeal. In order to fully invest someone in your cause you must appeal to their personal interests. For example, you want to try to persuade a parent into buying you a new back pack. You may appeal to the nature of that backpack being a tool you’d use in order to succeed in school. By appealing to the emotional interest of your parent or parents of them wanting you to succeed you can persuade them into getting that new backpack.
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Margarito Garcia
6/6/2018 08:23:06 am
I've always felt the strongest appeal was the logos appeal. The other two appeals may work, but not as effective as logos. Though ethos is pretty close to being effective as logos, When it comes to arguing I am always swayed over by facts. When I have an argument with a friend always use logos. Such as when he brought up the topic of earth being flat. I used a logical standpoint to discredit the idea. Also used evidence with numbers having to deal with shadows of standing pillars in different parts of the earth. The different length of the shadow of each pillar showed evidence. It showed evidence that the earth is not flat.
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Briana Aguilar
9/25/2018 01:54:47 pm
I’ve had many moments of persuading with my parents. As for one main one I can think of from the top of my head is the time when I moved from my childhood to here in Lake Elsinore. I used pathos to persuade my parents to have me continue my middle school over there in OC. The argument was of the drive and all the paperwork to get me back into that school. Why I say I used pathos was becuse I shed some tears so that they could understand that I was very serious about the topic. I tried to also seem as mature as I could and also tried to make it believable on understanding about it. As for my parents it wasn’t such a good idea so then and there was already an argument. I wanted them to believe that i would do even better then I was doing at the school here in Lake Elsinore. I also tried to make a point about how they would feel being one of the new kids not knowing how to do things or where to go, I felt stupid. Did the conversation go well? Well no becasue I didnt persuade them enough.
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audrey
10/6/2018 09:50:31 pm
I have had many moments in trying to persuade a teacher or parent, but one I am most proud of was me convincing my mom to let me be out all night one night. I asked at first and she said are u crazy, theres no way, so I replied I bet I can convince you, and that's how it started. My mom asked for three examples on why I should be allowed to go out that night and they had to be great reasons, not just because. My first reason was because my grades in school were good, I had all As and one B why shouldn't I be allowed to go out if I have no grades on the line or even close to dropping. My second statement was saying I help with the bills, I work after school some days to make extra money and buy groceries or pay utilities, I think ive earned a night of freedom for making sure this family had food and other things necessary on days her job didn't always cover everything. And lastly my final argument was recapping the first two and adding household items to it, I go to school, go to work, and while she is at work I cook, clean, and help my brothers with homework. My mom wasn't ready for those arguments I left her speechless she agreed to let me go out and even thanked me for how much ive grown up and helped around the house. Life isn't easy some have it harder than others, as long as we push and work hard though we can do anything.
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Christian Bustamante
11/5/2018 02:26:29 pm
Pathos is the most persuasive out of all of them. Pathos deals with emotions and everyone has them. You can go for any emotion you want and it’ll affect the audience. You have to know what people wanna hear and how to correctly word what you’re trying to say. Everyone will fall for what you’re trying to say cuz emotions take over. No one knows how to control their emotions. People trust everything they feel even if it’s stupid. Everyone has at some point in their lives felt the same thing you have. Or they have been through the same thing you have. Emotions cloud people’s judgement.
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pamela olguin
3/12/2019 08:05:46 pm
There are a few arguments. Some are to convince and persuade as others are to inform and make decisions. No matter the argument, the rhetoric used is meant to make the audience act. It can be to act upon be a decision made or the take action in a problem. Though some believe that a pathos argument is effective, it is the least effective. An argument with creditable ethos and a strong ethos and a strong logos is the best argument.
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daecelia
3/20/2019 01:33:22 pm
evidence, I have used evidence to make my mom say yes to something I ask her. there was one time where I wanted to go to a party and she wouldn't let me, I kept bugging and bugging. I told her that lat time she let me go I didn't do anything wrong, I came home on time , and I didn't get into any trouble. and she said yes.
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Chelsea Salazar
4/1/2019 01:59:20 pm
I mainly use logic, and edivence because when my parents don't want to let me go out, I'll always bring up something they have said from the past.
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Tyler Saldana
4/24/2019 02:21:29 pm
Although logos is probably the strongest way of persuasion in my opinion, I tend to use pathos the most since i tend to establish a emotional connection with the person rather than state facts that usually end going right over their head. I usually use pathos on my parents since i have most of my history with them, usually bringing up the past does it. Same goes for them, I can tell they use the same method on me.
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Isaias Garcia-Barcenas
5/25/2019 03:11:16 pm
The kind of argument that I used was my grades. I did not use logic. I didn't use support for my request. I did try to present your own character in a way that would make my case more believable or at least understanding. I did try to engage the emotions of your audience. I tried to use my emotions telling them that I am trying. I also tried to make them understand that school was not the same as back then. They still didn't believe me no matter what they say. No matter what they said or I said they didn't believe me.
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Andrew Moore
10/23/2019 04:25:05 pm
Although logos is probably the strongest way of persuasion in my opinion, I tend to use pathos the most since i tend to establish a emotional connection with the person rather than state facts that usually end going right over their head. I usually use pathos on my parents since i have most of my history with them, usually bringing up the past does it. Same goes for them, I can tell they use the same method on me.
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